looking for coding

[Ian]

Hello i have made many batch files and i am looking for some coders and i what to see (more like i was challenged) to make a full os and i am looking if we can make a big os ( i mean BIG!)

[aGerman]

You try to tell us that you want to write an operating system with Batch?
Are you aware that Batch requires Windows? To write an operating system you would need a profound knowledge in Assembly and C. Here's not the place to discuss about these languages.

Regards
aGerman

[phillid]

Maybe he means he wants to make a batch script that has all of the features as an operating system (eg. a window manager, terminal and some programs) which is inside a command prompt window.
I understand that this wouldn't actually have any advantage as you'd be running windows as well, but it's a good way to gain some experience.

Thanks
Phillid

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[aGerman]

Well guys don't confuse yourself.

... to make a full os ...

That has nothing to do with Batch! Batch can do what CMD can do and what external tools (written in C or other languages) can do. That's all! It requires Windows as OS on what it runs. That means you have no chance to write an OS with batch.
If somebody wants to have a look at a source code of an Operating System:

... make a big os ( i mean BIG!)

... well, Linux Kernel (only the Kernel ! with a history of more than 20 years and more than 70 MB C and Assembly source code).
http://kernel.org/

A simple OS which does nothing but booting.
http://wiki.osdev.org/Bare_Bones

Regards
aGerman

[phillid]

aGerman, we're not confised, we do understand what OSes are and that batch scripts rely on CMD.exe which in turn relies on Windows so we (maybe not Ian, just until now) understand you cannot make an OS with batch. Then again, we don't know if Ian wants to create an OS or a script that emulates one...

Did you read my post?

Maybe he means he wants to make a batch script that has all of the features as an operating system (eg. a window manager, terminal and some programs) which is inside a command prompt window.
I understand that this wouldn't actually have any advantage as you'd be running windows as well, but it's a good way to gain some experience.

I pointed out that while you'd be relying on Windows and CMD, you could still learn quite a bit about batch scripting in writing a batch script that immitates an OS, but obviously isn't one. You could learn a lot with writing terminals, dealing with keypresses such as the arrow keys, mouse clicks etc.

Thanks
Phillid

[aGerman]

No offense, phillid, but I thought "make a full os" was clear enough And of course I read your comment.

I pointed out that while you'd be relying on Windows and CMD, you could still learn quite a bit about batch scripting in writing a batch script that immitates an OS, but obviously isn't one.

Good luck

You could learn a lot with writing terminals, dealing with keypresses such as the arrow keys, mouse clicks etc.

Unfortunately no chance with pure batch. Some ASCII is supported (eg. with CHOICE) but no arrow keys or something like that. Also no mouse input.
I already wrote a few small C and C++ console tools to return the ASCII or the virtual key codes across the entire keyboard, the position of a mouse click or some totally useless things like including a bitmap in a console window etc. I wrote that just for fun and to learn more about C and C++. For batch scripting it's more or less senseless since those tools are not part of the default Windows collection and nobody else can use a batch script where these applications are called

Regards
aGerman

[phillid]

No offense, phillid, but I thought "make a full os" was clear enough

True, I guess I didn't take it as literally as I should have

Good luck

You forgot to wish hours and hours of time along with a cure for the insanity the person who embarks on such a journey must have

I already wrote a few small C and C++ console tools...

I think I know the ones you're talking about I still use them sometimes

...nobody else can use a batch script where these applications are called

Unless they were included with the script, although this would lessen its portablity somewhat..

Anyway, this is beginning to de-rail, plus we've heard nothing back from Ian so we can assume he's not still looking at scripting anything like he wanted to in the first place...

Thanks
Phillid