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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#16 Post by npocmaka_ » 13 Aug 2015 10:35

Just a continuation of this
for those who are (still) not on stack overflow.


It appears that most probably CALL uses GOTO to parse the labels (check jeb's answer) .
And for some reason this will print the GOTO help message:

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setlocal
set "label=/?"
call :%%label%%


More interesting it will execute the code bellow the CALL twice.
And will change its command line arguments :!:

try co call this this script with some arguments:

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setlocal
set "label=/?"
call :%%label%%  ##

echo -%1-


and without GOTO help message (EDIT on a second tought I dont see anyting special here)

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set l=l
call ::%%l%% ##
:l
echo -%1%-


On the second run it will be changed with ##



Also - it is possible to CALL :EOF with double expansion :


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@echo off
set e=EOF

call ::%%EOF%%
echo something



the thing is you can call any label with double semicolon (not possible with goto on the other hand goto can jump to labels without semicolon but call cant) which fits in the conclusion that CALL uses GOTO. And with double expansion it jumps to :EOF.


And one more side thing:

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set "h=/?"&call rem  %%h%%


:twisted:


EDIT

no need of double expansion to call eof - just

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call ::eof

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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#17 Post by npocmaka_ » 13 Aug 2015 13:33

I suppose this is not exactly related with the initial thread topic but why this appends to the file without new line and why works :?: (at least works the first time)


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@echo off

::
::rem the closing bracket should be the last symbol in the file
::
call ::eof && (
   echo echo something>>"%~f0"
)

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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#18 Post by dbenham » 13 Aug 2015 23:00

Great find npocmaka_, and great analysis by jeb.

Your last example "works" the first time because the entire block is parsed in its entirety, through the closing paren, before anything is executed.

The file pointer is now at the end of the file (after the paren).

The CALL ::EOF works as you have already discovered, and then the ECHO appends ECHO SOMETHING after the ) (on the same line).

But the file pointer currently resides after the paren, so when the parser resumes, it parses ECHO SOMETHING just fine.

On subsequent runs, the block fails entirely because the initial parse chokes on )ECHO SOMETHING.


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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#19 Post by npocmaka_ » 14 Aug 2015 12:38

I've wondered if it is possible to strip the goto help message , so I'll be able to create anonymous function/subroutine . This is the only thing that came up to me:

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@echo off

setlocal


set "h=/?"
call :%%h%% anonymous a b c >nul

if not "%~1" == "anonymous" (
   echo(
   echo normal call
   echo %2 %3
)

if "%~1" == "anonymous" (
   echo(
   echo anonymous call
   echo %2 %3 %4
   exit /b 0
)>&3

echo end



Can this be useful?
I don't know .I think this could be a slight performance booster as the goto parsing is skipped.
The label will be not available for externalaccess so this also could be called a private function ...

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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#20 Post by dbenham » 14 Aug 2015 13:31

I was thinking of something similar, but was stumped until I saw your attempt :)

Here is an improvement. Instead of using %1 which could be spoofed, I rely on the %0 value, which I think is difficult (if not impossible) to fake. I also opted to name the variable "anonymous" instead of "h". I also explicitly redirect 3 to 1, just in case there has already been prior redirection.

I think it could be of marginal use for cases where you want to access variables set within a loop (or other block), don't want delayed expansion, and don't want a normal labeled routine that could be accidently called by some other code, and don't want to use the slow CALL ECHO %%var%% syntax.

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@echo off
setlocal
set "anonymous=/?"

echo Before anonymous call:
echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3

for /l %%N in (1 1 5) do (
   set /a N=%%N*2
  call :%%anonymous%% a b c 3>&1 >nul
)
if "%0" == ":%anonymous%" (
  echo(
  echo Anonymous call:
  echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3  N=%N%
  exit /b 0
)>&3

echo(
echo After anonymous call:
echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3

--OUTPUT--

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Before anonymous call:
%1= %2= %3=

Anonymous call:
%1=a %2=b %3=c  N=2

Anonymous call:
%1=a %2=b %3=c  N=4

Anonymous call:
%1=a %2=b %3=c  N=6

Anonymous call:
%1=a %2=b %3=c  N=8

Anonymous call:
%1=a %2=b %3=c  N=10

After anonymous call:
%1= %2= %3=


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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#21 Post by OperatorGK » 14 Aug 2015 13:34

npocmaka_ wrote:external access

It is possible! I thought not :(. Someone, please dump all awesome stackoverflow things here or, at least, make a list.
Also, I made some nice syntax:

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set LF=^


set exports=^^^%LF%%LF%^%LF%%LF%

Use like this:

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:function %exports% library.bat %*

Sadly "%*" can't be removed.

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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#22 Post by OperatorGK » 14 Aug 2015 14:02

dbenham wrote:I was thinking of something similar, but was stumped until I saw your attempt :)

Here is an improvement. Instead of using %1 which could be spoofed, I rely on the %0 value, which I think is difficult (if not impossible) to fake. I also opted to name the variable "private" instead of "h". I also explicitly redirect 3 to 1, just in case there has already been prior redirection.

I think it could be of marginal use for cases where you want to access variables set within a loop (or other block), don't want delayed expansion, and don't want a normal labeled routine that could be accidently called by some other code, and don't want to use the slow CALL ECHO %%var%% syntax.

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@echo off
setlocal
set "private=/?"

echo Before private call:
echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3

for /l %%N in (1 1 5) do (
   set /a N=%%N*2
  call :%%private%% a b c 3>&1 >nul
)
if "%0" == ":%private%" (
  echo(
  echo Private call:
  echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3  N=%N%
  exit /b 0
)>&3

echo(
echo After private call:
echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3

--OUTPUT--

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Before private call:
%1= %2= %3=

Private call:
%1=a %2=b %3=c  N=2

Private call:
%1=a %2=b %3=c  N=4

Private call:
%1=a %2=b %3=c  N=6

Private call:
%1=a %2=b %3=c  N=8

Private call:
%1=a %2=b %3=c  N=10

After private call:
%1= %2= %3=


Dave Benham

Just to say, changing %0 is possible:

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@echo off
echo Non-faked: %0
set "impossibleLabel=:/?"
call:fake0 %%impossibleLabel%%
exit /b

:fake0
shift
echo Faked: %0
exit /b

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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#23 Post by npocmaka_ » 14 Aug 2015 16:56

dbenham wrote:I was thinking of something similar, but was stumped until I saw your attempt :)

Here is an improvement. Instead of using %1 which could be spoofed, I rely on the %0 value, which I think is difficult (if not impossible) to fake. I also opted to name the variable "anonymous" instead of "h". I also explicitly redirect 3 to 1, just in case there has already been prior redirection.

I think it could be of marginal use for cases where you want to access variables set within a loop (or other block), don't want delayed expansion, and don't want a normal labeled routine that could be accidently called by some other code, and don't want to use the slow CALL ECHO %%var%% syntax.


Dave Benham


Will admit that this is neater ..and with a far more better the redirection .But this will restrict the code to only one anonymous function?
Next step is a performance test.



please dump all awesome stackoverflow things here or, at least, make a list


I was thinking for a thread like this...

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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#24 Post by dbenham » 14 Aug 2015 21:17

npocmaka_ wrote:
dbenham wrote:I was thinking of something similar, but was stumped until I saw your attempt :)

Here is an improvement. Instead of using %1 which could be spoofed, I rely on the %0 value, which I think is difficult (if not impossible) to fake. I also opted to name the variable "anonymous" instead of "h". I also explicitly redirect 3 to 1, just in case there has already been prior redirection.

I think it could be of marginal use for cases where you want to access variables set within a loop (or other block), don't want delayed expansion, and don't want a normal labeled routine that could be accidently called by some other code, and don't want to use the slow CALL ECHO %%var%% syntax.


Dave Benham


Will admit that this is neater ..and with a far more better the redirection .But this will restrict the code to only one anonymous function?
Next step is a performance test.

Yes, one anonymous function per code block (immediately following the block). But it is a stretch in my mind to argue for one anonymous function, let alone multiple ones :wink:
Also, a named anonymous function would seem to be an oxymoron, but that is just semantics :roll:

In my quick tests, with a short script, an anonymous block that ECHOs a value is about 2/3 as fast as a normal labeled function call. I'm assuming the slowness is due to the time it takes to print out the HELP, even if it is directed to NUL. I suppose the difference will be less as the file gets bigger if there is a significant gap between the CALL and the :LABEL. But the anonymous CALL is twice as fast as a CALL to an ECHO with double expansion.


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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#25 Post by npocmaka_ » 15 Aug 2015 02:36

yes.Unfortunately anonymous functions are even slower when executed in small scripts :( . Though they are a little bit faster when the script is bigger.

Here are my tests:

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anonymous
start 11:06:01.86 -end 11:06:19.51 - short script -                       17.65 sec
start 11:11:02.48 -end 11:11:19.92 - long script (126 additional lines) - 17.44 sec



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normal call
start 11:13:56.99 -end 11:14:20.13 - short script -                      13.14 sec
start 11:15:17.22 -end 11:15:40.45 - long script (126 additional lines)- 23.33 sec




The code I've used:

1.Normal function:

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@echo off

set time1=%time%
for /l %%N in (1 1 10000) do (
   set /a N=%%N*2
  call :anonymous a b c
)


set time2=%time%

echo %time1% %time2%


exit /b 0

:anonymous
  echo(
  echo Anonymous call:
  echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3  N=%N%
exit /b 0


2.Anonymous function

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@echo off
setlocal
set "anonymous=/?"

set time1=%time%

for /l %%N in (1 1 10000) do (
   set /a N=%%N*2
  call :%%anonymous%% a b c 3>&1 >nul
)
if "%0" == ":%anonymous%" (
  echo(
  echo Anonymous call:
  echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3  N=%N%
  exit /b 0
)>&3

set time2=%time%

echo %time1% %time2%

exit /b 0



the additional lines:

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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#26 Post by OperatorGK » 15 Aug 2015 06:23

slower when used in small scripts

:shock: What developers of cmd.exe smoked? Cause I don't know HOW to code something that works slower when used in small script.
Also, it's speed decreases with memory usage - avg. 15 sec with 1MB used, but 90 sec with 4MB used on my computer.

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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#27 Post by dbenham » 15 Aug 2015 08:12

I'm pretty sure the difference between 17.65 and 17.44 is nothing more than random variance. I believe you will find virtually no difference between the two if you run each 100 times and take the average.


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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#28 Post by npocmaka_ » 15 Aug 2015 08:33

Ahm.What I've meant was that the anonymous functions are faster than normal call of functions with big scripts.Probably I've misled OperatorGK .

For sure these 200 milliseconds were between two anonymous calls were just a random noise.

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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#29 Post by npocmaka_ » 15 Aug 2015 09:49

Almost forgot how GOTO parses the arguments containing `/?` . It is possible to have a lot of anonymous functions:


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@echo off
setlocal
set "anonymous=/?#"

echo Before first anonymous call:
echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3

for /l %%N in (1 1 5) do (
   set /a N=%%N*2
  call :%%anonymous%% a b c 3>&1 >nul
)
if "%0" == ":%anonymous%" (
  echo(
  echo Anonymous call:
  echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3  N=%N%
  exit /b 0
)>&3

echo(
echo After first anonymous call:
echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3


echo ---------------------------

set "anonymous2=/?##"

echo Before second anonymous call:
echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3

for /l %%N in (1 1 5) do (
   set /a N=%%N*2
  call :%%anonymous2%% e f g 3>&1 >nul
)
if "%0" == ":%anonymous2%" (
  echo(
  echo Anonymous call:
  echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3  N=%N%
  exit /b 0
)>&3

echo(
echo After the second anonymous call:
echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3



And even `parts` of one anonymous function to placed on different places in the script

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Re: Rules for label names vs GOTO and CALL

#30 Post by Aacini » 15 Aug 2015 10:23

The "anonymous subroutine" called by a certain "anonymous call" is the code placed below the "call :%%anonymous%%" line, so there is no need to distinguish one "anonymous subroutine" from another one:

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@echo off
setlocal
set "anonymous=/?"

echo Before first anonymous call:
echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3

for /l %%N in (1 1 5) do (
   set /a N=%%N*2
  call :%%anonymous%% a b c 3>&1 >nul
)
if "%0" == ":%anonymous%" (
  echo(
  echo First anonymous subroutine:
  echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3  N=%N%
  exit /b 0
)>&3

echo(
echo After first anonymous call:
echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3


echo ---------------------------

echo Before second anonymous call:
echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3

for /l %%N in (1 1 5) do (
   set /a N=%%N*2
  call :%%anonymous%% e f g 3>&1 >nul
)
if "%0" == ":%anonymous%" (
  echo(
  echo Second anonymous subroutine:
  echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3  N=%N%
  exit /b 0
)>&3

echo(
echo After the second anonymous call:
echo %%1=%1 %%2=%2 %%3=%3

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