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generic failure

Posted: 20 Jan 2010 22:50
by The Great One
On my laptop i run this code and everything works fine but on my desktop I get a generic error, any thoughts?

@echo off
taskkill /F /IM Steam.exe /t
pause

Posted: 21 Jan 2010 03:10
by alan_b
I do not know what you mean by generic failure.

On my laptop I get the following :-

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C:\>taskkill /?
'taskkill' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.


The reason is I have XP Home edition, instead of XP Professional.
I instead have to use TSKILL.

Perhaps you have yet another flavour of Windows.

Alan

Posted: 21 Jan 2010 12:31
by The Great One
Nope I have the same version of windows vista on both my computers. I am not really sure what the generic error is. Here is a picture.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2742/failuregr.jpg

Its very strange.

Re: generic failure

Posted: 22 Jan 2010 02:54
by alan_b
Your image reminds me of old DOS 3.2 etc.
Failure to write a file gave options of Quit, Retry, Abort, etc,
but otherwise was un-informative as to the cause.
Often it would simply represent the options with no way out,
even Abort failed and the only way out was a reboot.

I suspect that steam.exe is doing something really dirty in the fundamentals, perhaps in the BIOS,
and Windows just cannot cope with it.

see http://www.file.net/process/steam.exe.html
The fourth "User Comment " commences :-
"steam.exe prevents itself from being terminated by Task Manager. That's damn suspicious and antisocial;"

I suspect that On-Line shoot-em-up gamers ensure a level playing field by ensure that all responses in the game are from human interface devices, and not from a cheat automatic reaction assist program that can shoot the enemy even before the Graphics Adapter has shown where he is.

I suspect that it is a fundamental requirement that Steam should NOT be shut down when you want to cheat, and or if you manage to shut it down drastic action will be taken to penalise you or ensure that you gain no unfair advantage.

Consequently, even if you are not cheating, Steam will still protect itself,
and it will be far harder to kill steam.exe than it is to kill Notepad.exe.

n.b. If you Google "Steam.exe" you will get 731,000 results,
many of them referring to virus / malware.
I do not know if you have the "good" sort or the BAD sort ! ! !

Alan

Re: generic failure

Posted: 22 Jan 2010 18:20
by The Great One
Thanks for the help but thats not it steam was just an example. Taskkill won't kill any task even notepad. BTW steam is a program for games(best program ever). http://www.steampowered.com Steam itself is free but the games are not.

Re: generic failure

Posted: 22 Jan 2010 18:40
by aGerman
Maybe option /f is placed wrong? Have a look to the command line reference (taskkill /?).

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taskkill /im Steam.exe /f /t

Re: generic failure

Posted: 23 Jan 2010 01:13
by The Great One
Thanks for replying but thats not the problem. I tried your suggestion and still got the generic error. Also it works on my laptop with no problem and they both are running the same version of windows.

Re: generic failure

Posted: 23 Jan 2010 04:11
by alan_b
The Great One wrote:Thanks for the help but thats not it steam was just an example. Taskkill won't kill any task even notepad. BTW steam is a program for games(best program ever). http://www.steampowered.com Steam itself is free but the games are not.


You chose a terrible example. You should have chosen notepad.

1.
Everyone in this forum has notepad and might have been able to assist.
Probably more than 90% of those with knowledge have been excluded because they have no Steam.

2.
Steam is notorious for giving problems, Google gives 47,900 results for
"HOW TO" REMOVE STEAM.EXE

SUGGESTION - Do NOT bother with Steam until you can kill Notepad.

Please confirm that Taskkill is able to kill Notepad :-
On the Laptop only, but not the Desktop.

Please advise if Windows Task Manager / Applications can END TASK upon Notepad :-
On the Laptop only, but not the Desktop.

Please advise if Windows Task Manager / Processes can END PROCESS upon Notepad :-
On the Laptop only, but not the Desktop.

I do not have Taskkill available, but I can confirm that When Notepad is running it is present on both the Applications Tab and the Processes Tab of Windows Task Manager,
and when I terminate it on one of those Tabs it is immediately removed from the other also.

My suspicions are that Windows needs to be re-installed, or some "extra" software needs fixing because it is interfering.

Regards
Alan

Re: generic failure

Posted: 23 Jan 2010 12:39
by The Great One
Ok ya steam was probably a bad example. Notepad works normally of both computers. Taskkill works only on the laptop. I can not kill any program with task kill on my desktop. I think you are right and some files must be messed up so taskkill is not working. Thanks for the help anyways.